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11 January 2010 @ 04:20 pm
 
I've been refreshing the Prop 8 Trial Tracker for most of the day today. Some of the testimony is heartbreaking, like this dialogue from Sandy, whose marriage to Kristen Perry was nullified when Prop 8 passed:


O: How convinced are you that you are gay? You lived with a husband. Some people would say it’s this, then it’s that and now it’s this.

S: I’ve only been in love once and that’s with Perry. I’m 47. I know. I’m a plaintiff this case because I would like to get married and to marry the person that I choose and that’s Kris Perry and California law prevents that.

O: As a parent of four children, you have strong sense of what it means to be a good parent. Would your boys be better off with a man in the house?

S: The most important and best thing for kids is to feel loved. If I could marry, I’d think I was building a good world for our kids. I want our kids to have a better world than we have. I want the possibility of having grandchildren who are okay no matter whom they fall in love with. As someone from one of the most conservative pockets in the country, I see how important this is. I hope for something for Kris and I, but we’re big, strong women. We’d benefit greatly, but others over time would benefit in a more profound, life-changing way.



Interesting stuff. I wish this was all being televised, but at least it's being well-covered by bloggers.
 
 
 
the sky is a poisonous garden tonightslug_life on January 12th, 2010 12:32 am (UTC)
Personally I think boys *do* benefit from having an older male around for guidance, but that doesn't mean they can't live and thrive without one, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the rights of people to marry the person they love.
typsietypsie on January 12th, 2010 12:43 am (UTC)
I think it's certainly helpful for children to have diverse role models - male or female, differing race/class/religion/background/whatever - but I don't think it necessarily has to be in the form of a parent. It could be an aunt or uncle, a teacher, an older sibling, etc. And yeah, certainly this should have no bearing on who gets to be the kid's legal guardian(s). It's absurd to say that a single woman can raise a kid and be totally legally and socially acceptable, but if you have TWO women doing it, suddenly it's a huge deal and should be outlawed because a kid NEEDS a father figure.

The fact that this is even an issue has never made any sense to me.
the sky is a poisonous garden tonightslug_life on January 12th, 2010 12:51 am (UTC)
Parental roles should even be an issue when discussing marriage, honestly -- not all parents are married and not all married people are parents.
typsietypsie on January 12th, 2010 12:52 am (UTC)
Exactly. Yet another thing that angered me about the whole "PLZ THINK OF TEH CHILDRINZ!!" pro-8 campaign.
the sky is a poisonous garden tonightslug_life on January 12th, 2010 12:53 am (UTC)
Children are often hostages of someone's political agenda.
Kristachinadoll66102 on January 12th, 2010 04:00 pm (UTC)
When it comes to love, I do think that if a child had two parents of the same sex, and the kid was heterosexual, that there is a feeling of absence in terms of role models for love that they could possibly completely identify with when come time for choosing their own partner.

The reason I think this is mainly because while we all have had different role models in our lives, the relationships our parents have do definitely have a huge influence over the type of relationship model we are likely to form ourselves later in life. The relationships we have with our parents is one of the most shapely ones we will ever have, it seems.

So I won't say it doesn't make a difference-but, like they said, Love is the most important thing. I think it would be better if more Americans focused on that instead of focusing on the exact 'model' of the home in terms of parents. Love in a general sense, respect for other human beings, empathy, etc.
praenomenalpraenomenal on January 12th, 2010 04:56 pm (UTC)
"When it comes to love, I do think that if a child had two parents of the same sex, and the kid was heterosexual, that there is a feeling of absence in terms of role models for love that they could possibly completely identify with when come time for choosing their own partner."

My parents are heterosexual, Cis-sexual, cis-gendered.

I am Lesbian, Transsexual.

We do just fine. I did just fine.

There was no absence.